Tom and his brother Norman often drove us to the George Farmer school in Holbeach from Holbeach St Johns. I was good friends with Normans sons William and Kevin. I knew Elizabeth too.
While I have no connection with the area I am somewhat of an amateur bus historian, and have access to some records. One of these mentions Rose( no initial) variously listed as Holbeach, Holbeach Drove, Holbeach St. John ( presumably in error) and Holbeach St. Johns. New vehicles were purchased between 1934 and 1950 and in the70s/ 80s. Presumably only preowned vehicles were bought between (and probably simultaneously with new vehicles in addition). The newest vehicle listed as bought new is V registered. However early records are very patchy, and new vehicle records are almost entirely confined to major manufacturers or those remaining in business until modern times. There are probably more records in private hands, but without prior knowledge are almost impossible to locate on the internet. I have managed to find a photograph of a preowned vehicle new in 1961, but with no information as to when it reached Rose.
Records of new vehicles can be located on the website ” Bus Lists on the web”. Most of these records are obtained from other sources, so are not 100 % accurate, but where I have knowledge from primary sources, they are pretty much correct ( for the lay man anyway ). There are generally very few records of when vehicles are withdrawn from service, except where vehicles pass to other operators ( with very small rural operators a rare occurrence, such operators generally ran vehicles until they are of no use to anyone else -rural bus economics being precarious at best !)
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My dad was Tom Rose this is such a blast from the past for me .As a young child I would ride in the front engine bay and feel like a queen on parade .
Thanks for this what lovely memories. Do you have any other memories or maybe photos?
The firm was called W Rose and Son and traded for may years .
Tom and his brother Norman often drove us to the George Farmer school in Holbeach from Holbeach St Johns. I was good friends with Normans sons William and Kevin. I knew Elizabeth too.
Thanks great memories. Please keep the memories coming.
Regards
Geoff Taylor
While I have no connection with the area I am somewhat of an amateur bus historian, and have access to some records. One of these mentions Rose( no initial) variously listed as Holbeach, Holbeach Drove, Holbeach St. John ( presumably in error) and Holbeach St. Johns. New vehicles were purchased between 1934 and 1950 and in the70s/ 80s. Presumably only preowned vehicles were bought between (and probably simultaneously with new vehicles in addition). The newest vehicle listed as bought new is V registered. However early records are very patchy, and new vehicle records are almost entirely confined to major manufacturers or those remaining in business until modern times. There are probably more records in private hands, but without prior knowledge are almost impossible to locate on the internet. I have managed to find a photograph of a preowned vehicle new in 1961, but with no information as to when it reached Rose.
Records of new vehicles can be located on the website ” Bus Lists on the web”. Most of these records are obtained from other sources, so are not 100 % accurate, but where I have knowledge from primary sources, they are pretty much correct ( for the lay man anyway ). There are generally very few records of when vehicles are withdrawn from service, except where vehicles pass to other operators ( with very small rural operators a rare occurrence, such operators generally ran vehicles until they are of no use to anyone else -rural bus economics being precarious at best !)